For many centuries, man enjoyed his social and political life and tried to improve it by thinking about justice and happiness, and trying to implement his ideas in the world--sometimes with better, sometimes worse results. One important way he thought about this was by comparing human political behavior to the standard of nature, which was the organization of the world by God (except for the pagans, who didn't so much care about that God) and so the most just standard there was. In nature, every species had a purpose of its own to fulfill, and fulfilling it was justice and his means to happiness. In this view, man and his social world were also part of nature, but not like the other animals--the exact purpose of man was debated, but there was no confusion over whether the purpose of a man was the same as the purpose of a turkey.
Then one day, magazine journalism appeared on the scene. Just kidding, that comes later. One day Darwin appeared on the scene. He proposed a new understanding of natural law, by which he either meant or was taken to mean, 'what the animals do.' In this view of nature, men and turkeys do have the same purpose--to reproduce as many copies of themselves as they can. Suddenly, people who had always been chafing under all the rules that civilization called for began to feel a certain nostalgia for savanna life. The savanna--not the city--was the new natural state, and therefore the good state. Let us look to the savanna to show us how to live well (and procreate more), they decided. What are the chimps up to these days?
Turns out the chimps (and the dogs and the birds and the spiders) were up to a bunch of really weird stuff. Some of them were polygamous, some of them lived in packs and shared everything equally, some of them killed enemies and sexual rivals in bloody competitions. (Some of them also ate their babies and bit off the heads of their mates and generated new limbs when the old ones fell off, but man has decided to hold off on incorporating these behaviors into the human canon of natural conduct.) At the same time as his discovery that animals did barbaric things which some humans were also capable of, man discovered that animals also did some things only people were thought to do. They communicated with each other and nurtured babies, for example. On all essential grounds, they were just like us, except with different plumage. And if that's true, then what's good enough for the turkey is good enough for man. It was uncanny how some animal behaviors overlapped with various human social theories being advanced at the time. THEN came magazine journalism.
The popularizers of science--themselves as susceptible to falling short of excellence as the rest of us--examined the new, more optimistic thinking about the savanna and found justification for nearly every misbehavior in which they would have liked to engage. Hey, forcing women into sex by violent coercion? They do it on the savanna! Leaving the weak members of the herd out to die, or just outright killing and eating them? Done on the savanna! Rule by force, strength, and pointiest teeth? Savanna! Adultery? Pretty much the most popular activity on the savanna! Dishonesty, theft, assault--all natural! We should try it! The rule of law and the pursuit of justice--um have you ever seen turkeys abiding by that? Negative!
The result was the blossoming of a genre of popular writing that justified such arguments as 'men are aggressive and hierarchical,' 'marriage is obsolete,' 'poor people deserve it,' 'the ill and disabled people are weighing society down' (and a whole host of other transparently eugenic claims like the last) by pointing to animals and saying, 'See, it's true on the savanna. Evolution made us this way. It's natural.' Therefore, we should believe, ideal and just. Another recent addition to the savanna enthusiast's oeuvre is neuroscientific research about "brain wiring," which locates the gifts handed down to us from the turkeys even closer than the actual savanna.
The result has been, well, Roissy and his cult of alpha-male aspirants, and also this view
...Men’s genes program them to seek many mates and try to monopolize the reproductive lives of those mates; think of the manners of the Fundamentalist Latter-Day Saints sect’s sprawling compound in Texas, in which the older men ran the younger men off and had as many of the girls--as young as 14--as they wanted.On the savanna, apparently, everyone is a Mormon. Poor Phillip Weiss is getting left out of the polygamous, pedophilic compound of nature, stuck with a sagging wife whom he leans on to perform such essential tasks for him as "manag[ing his] social calendar," though he would much rather be having sex with poor but hot young women, which he hopes will be easier once he launches his campaign to "encourage New York waitresses to look on being mistresses as a cool option." Do try to contain your tears of sympathy.
But lest you think that the savanna fuels only male sexual fantasy, this should set you straight:
As far as the children are concerned, how about the tribal approach (a natural, according to both primate and human evolution)? Let children between the ages of 1 and 5 be raised in a household of mothers and their female kin. Let the men/husbands/boyfriends come in once or twice a week to build shelves, prepare that bouillabaisse, or provide sex.This apparently justifies the author's adultery, because marriage is not practiced on the savanna, and neither is two-parent child-raising. Tsing-Loh was only behaving according to nature when she cheated on her husband, while the rest of us out here in retrograde civilization-land insist on making ourselves miserable by refusing to model our lives on those of gorillas, and believing that the move from living like gorillas to living like humans was a basically positive step and should be sustained.
While we are often quite happy to accept the savanna excuse for bad social and especially sexual behavior, Cheryl points out, we have yet to employ evolution to excuse things like purse-snatching and people-killing. Weird, because the savanna has no problem with these things either. As evidenced by centuries of human behavior, we have evolved just as much predisposition to steal and kill as to commit adultery and feel repulsed by the weak and unattractive. But only the latter two find defenders on savanna grounds. Maybe it's just because our hankering to return to the savanna has not reached its zenith yet, but maybe we still kind of see how man is not exactly a turkey and would not be happier living like one. So we still accept that some human rules and institutions are good or even, some might say, natural, even though none of the plants and animals we know seem to share them.
This is wholly inconsistent. The savanna is a great place, people! Constant, no-strings attached sex for the having (as long as you can get enough food to survive)! All your illicit proclivities--totally acceptable (if you can kill whomever is in your way)! No one to judge your life choices or, equally bad, punish you for them (except, sometimes, by eating you)! Let's go there, but not halfway there--all the way there.
I, for one, am sharpening my teeth as I type.
22 comments:
MSI:
As you know, I argued along the lines of the male savanna theory. However, and I brought this up with Cheryl before, just because "Men’s genes program them to seek many mates and try to monopolize the reproductive lives of those mates" does justifies those actions.
Men are also more violent than women, I'd argue that has a biological basis, but, as you mention, we don't use that excuse for people-killing.
Whether or not something existed on the savanna is irrelevant to its Goodness or Justice. However, it can provide some insight into why people act the way they do.
So, yes. I agree with you, but Cheryl starts to tune out whenever she hears something along the Savanna theory, which is unfortunate.
I think what you're trying to distinguish is Darwinian evolution vs. applications of Darwinian evolution. It's a fair distinction to make, since essentially every attempt to apply Darwin's ideas to political life has been cruel, stupid, or disastrous. But even the theory's descriptive and, particularly predictive, powers have nearly nothing to tell us about human life. Marilynne Robinson pointed out that,
"Since those who are alive tend to make up the majority of any population, one cannot really be surprised to find their traits predominant, and their offspring relatively numerous. At the same time, one cannot be sure that they have not found the broad path to extinction, like so many creatures before them, doomed by traits that cannot at this moment be called incompatible with their survival, given the fact of their survival...The change to be observed is change, not necessarily refinement or complication, and not even adaptation, because it is often maladaptive. In The Descent of Man, Darwin notes, "Natural Selection acts only tentatively." Behold the great Law that governs nature."
Species change over time. Sometimes they acquire adaptations that help them reproduce, which we know because they then reproduce more. When their adaptations are not helpful, they diminish in number and eventually die, which we know because they are dead. Moreover, it will be hundreds of years before we can really see the effects of any given adaptation, so don't sit tight. What does this offer us in terms of how to live our own lives? Evolution isn't about individuals, and so it has nothing much to say about our lives as we experience them, which is as individuals. Does saying "evolution made men more violent than women" really provide insight into why any particular man committed a violent crime? Not unless it can also explain why another man did not commit the same crime.
I'm with you and Cheryl on the savanna thing... except that your description of it implicates the left but not the right (aside from the polygamous/rapist fringe), when both have their fair share of savanna motifs. What else is it when social conservatives decide that men and women are naturally different (which is true, to a degree), and that this difference, because it's natural, should be embraced even when it can easily be overcome, making, say, birth control wrong, not because it allows for a lot of sex (they were having a lot of sex in the savanna, just with no concern either way re: conception) but because it puts men and women on equal footing in a way that wasn't the case in nature? Same goes for resistance to allowing gays to adopt children - it can be done and has been done, but in nature it probably wouldn't happen.
I haven't argued this as well as I'd hoped, but I guess what I'm getting at is, embracing things because they are 'natural' is not just something entered into by self-indulgent decadents, primarily from the 'it's right because I feel like it' wing of the left, but is also, I think, central to some forms of social conservatism. It may be framed also as 'traditional', with conflicting traditions being conveniently ignored.
I think Roissy's posse may be on the right, but I can't link to him because that would be a validation of TOTAL EVIL that I'm unwilling to make.
Anyway, yes, this happens on the right too, I think, though the most frequent invocation that comes to my mind of it is actually in philosophies like Objectivism and justifications for free markets that suggest that the poor deserve to be poor because they're genetically maladapted, while we are genetically awesome, which is why we're rich.
Social conservatism may sometimes appeal to this kind of justification, but it's often invoking an older understanding of natural law when it appeals to nature. I tried to make the point in the post that there was (and remains in some places) an understanding of nature and "natural law" that precedes Darwinism but sounds very similar to it to our ears. In the older view, the best way to live is also the "natural" way, but natural law is not the same as the law of the jungle. Man has a place in nature, and is natural, but so are cities and political life and laws we legislate, even though they don't grow out of the ground like bean sprouts.
Man is natural because God created him, and God also gave him a purpose in the world, and that purpose is not merely to reproduce, nor is that purpose the same as the purpose of the turkey (whose purpose is also not merely to reproduce). Man's purpose is to live a good life (and attain salvation for the Christian, or find truth for the pagan), and some customs and institutions promote that and some obstruct it. The ones that most effectively promote this are natural, the others, not. But this kind of argument has to demonstrate that whatever institution it's arguing for is, in fact, promoting human excellence and flourishing (and salvation attaining and truth knowing) in order to demonstrate that it's natural. As a result, there is substantial room to debate which undoubtedly man-made institutions are and aren't natural.
Or, something like that (Aquinas = not my strong suit). But I suspect that many socially conservative arguments about "nature"--particularly because they're often rooted in Catholicism and traditionalist Protestantism--are alluding to that understanding and not the savanna understanding.
"In the older view, the best way to live is also the 'natural' way, but natural law is not the same as the law of the jungle. Man has a place in nature, and is natural, but so are cities and political life and laws we legislate, even though they don't grow out of the ground like bean sprouts."
I guess I'm not seeing how this would change, say, the birth control question. Why is the artifice it takes to build a city 'natural' but that which permits one to be fairly certain intercourse won't make a baby anything otherwise? Perhaps part of it is some idea that a "good life" is best obtained through traditional gender roles and procreative sex, but an argument could just as easily be made in the other direction. And given Christianity's traditional opposition to commerce/loans/all that fun stuff, why are cities OK (or natural) under this framework?
And Roissy? Only conservative in the broadest sense of anti-PC misogyny being the worst of the right rather than the worst of the left, but I don't think actual conservatives need be ashamed. I don't know what branch of conservatism advocates being really sleazy in bars in order to screw (in both senses) as many women as possible.
"Perhaps part of it is some idea that a "good life" is best obtained through traditional gender roles and procreative sex, but an argument could just as easily be made in the other direction." Right, so you have to make the argument. It's not always obvious what the law of nature is since it's not demonstrably what the monkeys or the turkeys do, so we argue. But we argue on grounds like, "Is this just? Does it conduce to happiness (happiness being an objective standard in this view)?" I think social conservatism does have substantive arguments about why traditional gender roles are better than the alternative or gay adoption is worse that are not just "it's unnatural" (except maybe on protest placards or whatever). The naturalistic fallacy is very easy to puncture.
"And given Christianity's traditional opposition to commerce/loans/all that fun stuff, why are cities OK (or natural) under this framework?"
Not sure how true this is. Charging 'unfair' rates of interest, and sometimes interest in general, was frowned upon and sometimes forbidden, but the exchange of goods and currency wasn't as far as I know. Moreover, I'm not sure that either the Catholic Church or protestant churches saw the city--as we now do--as primarily an economic center. The idea is based on Aristotle's view that man is a political animal, and the city is the polis--it's where politics takes place and people interact and make laws and study in universities and exist in a public way. The alternative would not be "the country" in this case, but the monastery, or the hermit.
I'm not ashamed of Roissy on behalf of conservatives. I'm ashamed for him on behalf of him.
"I think social conservatism does have substantive arguments about why traditional gender roles are better than the alternative or gay adoption is worse that are not just 'it's unnatural' (except maybe on protest placards or whatever)."
But this is how things are argued. For every argument about the ways feminism failed, there are more than one could imagine about how women's 'natural' place, since the dawn of time, has been in a 1950s suburban American kitchen. Even Loh-the-divorcee could come up with and did come up with better arguments for her (perhaps unfortunate) life choices than that they're based in nature. So what I'm not seeing, then, is how the savanna's more something to do with the left than the right.
You're more up on your Aristotle than I am on mine. I take your point. My understanding re: Christians and money isn't that money was outlawed, but as you said, that certain types of loans were left for Jews to deal with, and also that ambition (key to the modern city, if not the city, period) was discouraged.
Probably someone is saying that on the savanna, women stay home and cook, but it's about as serious an argument as one that claims that homosexuality is natural becomes some species of penguins appear to engage in it. Traditional gender roles are too broad a topic, but take, for example, the Kasses' argument for women taking their husbands' surnames.
It's an argument partly from tradition and one that claims to be in harmony with nature--a couple forms a family to raise children, since we already know who someone's mother is because her birthing him is visible, the name is what gives away the child's paternity, etc. Ultimately, the argument is that this form of name-giving and taking is natural because it harmonizes aspects of human nature that might, by other means, be brought into conflict (if paternal responsibility is abdicated, for example). Would you say that what's presented is not a substantive argument?
What they're not saying is that this kind of name-giving is natural because it happens among animals, or because some evolutionary imperative dictates what our names should be, or because concerns about maximizing our reproductive fitness should dictate how we are named (the goal not being as many babies as humanly possible, but a happy family). "It's natural" is invoked here, but it doesn't mean any of that. Sometimes "it's natural" does refer to aspects of biology--for example, women have the wombs and this influences human gender relations--but it hardly took Darwin's writing to demonstrate the truth of that observation.
Re: commerce and Christianity: From what I read in Arendt, the prohibition against money-lending was often invoked for the express purposes of anti-Semitism, but did not clearly prevail when Jews weren't deemed a threat. There is also the historical fact of the flourishing of major commercial centers like Venice under the Catholic Church, and Amsterdam under the Dutch Calvinists, so Christianity's disapproval of money-lending apparently wasn't universally enforced.
As a guy who is twenty years into a faithful marriage, I am likely disposed to find fault with Roissy. And I'm raising three kids who have my name... We all get lenses for looking at these issues from books we read, one of the ones which as stuck with me is Teilhard de Chardin Phenomenon of Man, in which he claims that you can't know the emergent properties of groups from the properties of the individuals within them.
Human culture would not survive if all men acted as Roissy advocates. Further, if no one like me sticks around to raise the kids, there will be no one to wipe his childless ass when he is 75 and incontinent and there are no young people around to run an assisted-living facility for him. He is a preening parasite.
It's also, apparently, true that 9% of Han Chinese men have Genghis Khan's Y chromosome (I told this to a friend, who said, 'how the Hell did he have time to conquer and administer?' and I said, 'well, he clearly didn't spend a lot of time on courtship')
We are the result of millions of years of evolution, in conditions which may have been somewhat similar to those in which hunter-gatherer people live today, and we are the children of the people who had children under those conditions. Nonetheless, we are pretty plastic, and what works for a modern culture is not going to be the same - so we have to muddle through as best we can. dave.s.
He proposed a new understanding of natural law, by which he either meant or was taken to mean, 'what the animals do.'
Be careful here.
Ulpian in his Institutes writes that "natural law is that law which nature teaches even to the animals," a sentiment Aquinas quotes faithfully and often uses to argue things like, "Oh, noes, humans only should have children in permanent unions because human offspring take much longer than other animals to develop."
Darwin's major contribution to thought on these issues was that both human and animals had this overarching purpose of reproducing themselves ad infinitum in order to wrest scarce resources from other animals and survive as a species. It's the idea of scarcity that's revolutionary. Previous thinkers generally though God or nature maintained the balance of species in fixed order. There was no concept of extinction or competition or ecological disturbance. Or humans (or your particular chosen race of humans) possibly going the way of the dodo if the breeding stock wasn't up to snuff. That's what eugenics is really about, making sure your favored race of humans dominates or exterminates everyone else.
As for evolutionary psychology and magazine journalism, yes, let's go back to the savanna, because that's been really great for our primate cousins, please eliminate 5999 out of every 6000 humans in the most uncivilized way possible to bring population to a sustainable level, mmkay?
I think this is where we agree to disagree. First off, I don't think it's possible to just discount how nature is actually used by many conservatives (as in, 'all that gay stuff, it's just not natural), and to compare a philosophical article by the Kasses to Loh's self-indulgent musings. If the point is that the conservative vision of nature is better than the liberal one (conservatism being, in your view, better than liberalism), I guess I'd be more easily convinced that conservatism's better, period, than that 'nature' when used to make a political point is ever really about 'nature' in any meaningful sense.
"Ultimately, the argument is that this form of name-giving and taking is natural because it harmonizes aspects of human nature that might, by other means, be brought into conflict (if paternal responsibility is abdicated, for example)."
This is a fair argument that this name-policy is a good one. I'm also all for women taking their husbands' names (for convenience/tradition/because how exactly is it not pro-patriarchy to have your father's last name? - not that I think the law should require it...) but I still don't see how nature enters into it. There could be endless other good ones, that would work for other societies, and that would also take biological constraints into account (say, accepting that fathers will always be unknown, and pooling resources as a community to raise children, allotting however much per child to each mother). I'm not suggesting this is a better way to go about things, only that all 'nature' demands is the woman-gives-birth scenario, and the rest is what we make of it. And really, everything any society ever decides is the right way to go is that society's attempt to make sense of things within the framework nature provides.
"Does saying "evolution made men more violent than women" really provide insight into why any particular man committed a violent crime? Not unless it can also explain why another man did not commit the same crime."
No. And as such it shouldn't really be used in a court case dealing with whether and individual man committed a specific crime and why. However, it can be useful to explain macro trends and form social policy.
If we know men are more violent than women, even if a particular man is not violent or a particular woman is violent, then there must be practical uses for that information when organizing society.
FLG, one way in which that sort of information may be useful is in identifying systemic biases, or lack thereof. The comment that helped get Larry Summers fired (about there being more genetic variation in men vs. women, which doesn't have anything obvious to do with the grasslands), would, if true, suggest that one might not expect to find as many women in certain kinds of positions (where you would have to believe that those positions used some low-probability genetic predisposition). As was pointed out before, we don't have to be slaves to genetic differences, but if we like the selection criteria, we don't have to conclude that there is bias in the selection process if the results aren't "even".
Anyway, expecting men to be more violent than women would have you expect to have more men in prison, and to plan for more prisons for them, and not to be too excited when we do have more men in prison than women. But there are other obvious superficial differences that don't appear to warrant such differences in outcomes, and...
Caelius: I'm not suggesting natural law is something different for each species, but that the telos of man was not thought to be the telos of any other species. Your example about the need to care for human children longer than, say, turkey children justifying permanent parental unions seems to be rooted in this understanding. That is, we shouldn't necessarily do what turkeys do because we are not turkeys, but there is a reason they do the things they do and a reason we do things differently. The argument argued from the opposite premise is the modern version--since turkeys do not raise their offspring in two-parent unions, man is not justified in doing so either because both species are animals and that means we have more in common than not (here, monkeys are obviously preferred).
Phoebe: I'm sure there are conservatives who use nature to mean "in the jungle," as I said. But what I'm trying to say is that this is not the only way that nature is invoked by conservatives. Natural law is another way, and the distinction is important. The Kasses' article isn't meant to be and answer or comparison to STL's; it's just the first example I could think of off the top of my head that invokes nature in terms of natural law and contains a substantive argument that attempts to show why their view conforms to nature rather than just asserting that it does, which is what you claimed conservative arguments resorted to.
The natural law framework is obviously a lot harder to hold up if no one much believes that 1) the world was created and everything in it has a purpose, and 2) that the attainment of that purpose is the good life. In that case, nature has no metaphysical basis--it's just the plants and the animals and the minerals and their physical interactions. You might still distinguish man from other animals based on his physical properties or cognitive capacities, but the evolutionary 'distance' between man and the animals becomes much more important and leads to several kinds of errors. We can look at the chimp (it can learn sign language and show empathy!) and pig (it is "smart"!), and conclude that have so much in common that we should look to the animals for guidance about how to live our own lives, or we look at them and note that they eat their own poop while we have skyscrapers and ipods, therefore we have transcended Darwinian evolution and will soon achieve the Singularity.
Re: what is better: I think classical natural law is better than modern natural (Darwinian) law for organizing a just society, but, like I said, natural law doesn't really make sense to us anymore. Still, I think it's important to attend to how people invoke nature rather than reject our of hand all arguments that do invoke nature.
FLG and Hardlyb: The social policy error you describe--assuming that men and women should commit crimes at the same rate--seems not to require any understanding of animal behavior or evolution to explain. Did anyone prior to the 20th century assume that there was gender parity in crime?
So do you think when liberals use 'nature', it's always jungle-nature?
Unless they are on the religious left, I'm not sure I've seen it invoked in any other sense. There is the strain of thinking that starts with Rousseau and looks to tribal people who practice subsistence customs and concludes they are "closer to nature" and therefore morally better than us who drive cars and listen to ipods. But this is also ultimately rooted in the belief that nature is what is wild and unsullied by man (or, sullied only as much as necessary for his basic survival), and that is the kind of life we should aspire to. Are there other ways that the left invokes nature?
It is always a treat when you start a topic like this. Every so often, we need a break from the current crisis/fad and need to be exposed (once again) to fundamental questions of human existence. But it would help to follow the lines of argument if you would identify: Cheryl (where are her thoughts located so I may read them), Roissy (who he?), Poor Phillip Weiss (ditto), and even FLG (him, I know). At least Sandra Tsing-Loh was easy to find in Google, so I can read what she has written. So, all I am saying is that links would make this whole discussion more enlightening. The thing is, some of us went through our period of contemplating these ideas some time ago, we thought they were important, but over time our thoughts became more mundane, cost of gasoline, groceries, children's college fund, children's mobile phone bills, etc. Then we come across a discussion such as tis and we are drawn into reading it because it still means something to us. But we really wish that you would help us catch up on the current thinking by providing links to the people you cite.
Thank you. It is always a pleasure to read your blog.
I can't link Roissy because, as I said above, he is evil. He must be googled. Phillip Weiss and STL are both linked in this post next to where I quote them. Cheryl is a real life friend of mine and the discussion with her also took place in real life, so there is no internet record of it. Her blog though is here and linked on my side bar.
A related point - possibly made above, I have not read the whole thread - is that many of the "savanna"-type explanations for human behavior are not at all well-established. At most, one can say they are not implausible. Coincidentally, this week's Newsweek has an article on the subject with a general takedown of evolutionary psychology.
Is it possible that I'm agreeing with you? I couldn't make it through "The Myth of Monogamy" because your argument here kept popping up in my feeble little mind and I can't hold two thoughts at once.
Steve Sailer really has it in for Sharon Begley: here is a 2005 from him - http://isteve.blogspot.com/2005/05/is-sharon-begley-as-dim-as-she-sounds.html - and a most recent, about the article Alex mentions - http://isteve.blogspot.com/2009/06/newsweek-v-evolutionary-psychology.html - in which he juxtaposes a photo of Begley, looking a little the worse for wear, with her quote "Men attracted to young, curvaceous babes were fitter because such women were the most fertile; mating with dumpy, barren hags is not a good way to grow a big family tree."
Begley puts a lot of stock in a thought experiment by a researcher named Thornhill, and which suggests that rape will not have been an evolutionarily successful strategy for the men who are our ancestors... Thought experiments are swell, and can be useful. Actual data are better - I earlier mentioned that 9% of Han Chinese men have Genghis Khan's Y chromosome, and suggested this was not the result of sweet seduction. My alumni magazine came last week and reported that the Y chromosomes of men on the England side of the border (Domesday book mentioned) come from the Anglo-Saxon invaders who came in the 4th century, very different from the Y chromosomes on the Wales side, where they fended off the Anglo-Saxons. In Medellin, the Y chromosomes are 95% Spanish, and the mitochondrial DNA is 95% Native American. USA African Americans: 33% of Y chromosomes European, but only 6% of the mitochondrial DNA is European. (http://harvardmagazine.com/2009/07/who-killed-the-men-england)
So this looks like data overwhelming thought experiment.
I still contend that teaching children to be polite, and punishing behavior we think vile, can go a long way towards making a society we like - but the idea that savanna strategies didn't work, and would not have been selected for, doesn't seem very plausible. dave.s.
The Onion weighs in - and not with Begley! http://www.theonion.com/content/news/7_million_people_direct?utm_source=a-section dave.s.
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